Dear 2CO staff,
You stated on Friday in this forum that no laptops have been shipped.
Posts have surfaced in various web forums that customers have received shipping notifications with a fake [all zero] tracking number and a vague, nonsensical shipping method called ”Scandinavia”.
Can you please confirm if these shipping notices are real, originating from 2checkout?
Which shipping company is used?
Why is the tracking number not correct?
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Hello *********
This message is to inform you that the following order has been shipped.
Order Number: ********
Order Total: 1038.5 SEK
Tracking Number: 00000000
Shipping Method: Scandinavia
Product Provided by: www.medisoncelebrity.com
Comments : Will be delivered to your home by Medison
Thank you for your order,
2Checkout.com
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Source: http://www.sweclockers.com/forum/showthread.php?s=93406b5f11e062e18d215968b5881422&pos
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I would like to know the answer to those questions as well.
Why have you, 2co staff, gone all quiet on us?
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Dear 2CO staff,
You have answered in another post that the shipping notices from Medison are sent by 2CO. But you did not answer my other two questions.
Could you please? Pretty please?
Which shipping company is used?
Why is the tracking number not correct?
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Dear 2CO staff,
Would you be able to comment on why you don’t respond to the above questions regarding Medison?
Not answering unfortunately could lead to speculation that it wasn’t possible to provide a tracking number because the goods wasn’t really shipped.
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”Not answering unfortunately could lead to speculation that it wasn’t possible to provide a tracking number because the goods wasn’t really shipped.”
Not REALLY shipped?????
Do you REALLY think that could be the case???
The real reason to why they don’t reveal WHAT company that delivers the computers is probably because THEY DON’T HAVE A CLUE! Could you think of any OTHER sane reason?
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Dear 2CO staff,
Have you been able to confirm delivery of a Medison laptop? After searching for Medison on Google, I am very reluctant to place a second order before I get confirmation from you that the shipping notifications are for real.
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I have 2 ordered. I want the same answers congatom has asked for. I have received no correspondance from ANYBODY. Why are we in the dark?
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Why has 2co not responded to this thread after a week ???? WTF If no answer soon I will cancil my order and make sure I never use 2co again. I will also make sure people I know in real life and on the internet never use 2co.
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Bump, time for some answers
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Is there any truth to the published news accounts in Sweden that 2Checkout.com has confirmed that at least some deliveries have actually been made to customers? Not speaking Swedish I had to rely on an automated translation of the story at http://www.idg.se/2.1085/1.119731 which wasn’t all that easy to decipher. If you could confirm or deny this, it would really be appreciated. – Thanks
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I apologize for being away from the forums for so long regarding this matter. I can tell you that Medison has been given a deadline. If that deadline is not met, all standing orders will be canceled and you will be notified when you can place your order again. This is not a reflection on Valdi, Medison or the product, but on system management and back end fulfillment issues. I thank you all for taking part on the forums and look forward to future discussions.
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”I apologize for being away from the forums for so long regarding this matter. I can tell you that Medison has been given a deadline. If that deadline is not met, all standing orders will be canceled and you will be notified when you can place your order again. This is not a reflection on Valdi, Medison or the product, but on system management and back end fulfillment issues. I thank you all for taking part on the forums and look forward to future discussions. ”
that does not answer a single question posted in this topic??
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Geno has been talking to swedish paper…
He said that the computer exists and he had seen it.
I’ll bet almost everything on that this computer was a clevo with scraped serial number. This computer was sent by a company to Valdi august 2006 according to people that have seen the shipping slip with name, this computer is not paid for yet….
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lukeduke…”that does not answer a single question posted in this topic??”
You must admit however that they have been very consistent regarding this matter. They have all the time done their best to ignore questions and once they reply they don’t answer the questions but instead issue statements.
I find it hard to believe that they ”look forward to future discussions” but am confident that’s what they will get.
roadfrisbee…”Is there any truth to the published news accounts in Sweden that 2Checkout.com has confirmed that at least some deliveries have actually been made to customers?”
It is true that 2 employees from 2CO has claimed to IDG in Sweden (For those that don’t trust IDG: International Data Group (IDG) is the world’s leading technology media, events, and research company. IDG’s online network includes more than 450 Web sites spanning business technology, consumer technology, digital entertainment, and video games worldwide. IDG publishes more than 300 magazines and newspapers in 85 countries including CIO, CSO, Computerworld, GamePro, InfoWorld, Macworld, Network World, and PC World.) that customers has contacted them with information that their computers had arrived.
IDG wrote that the 2CO people didn’t want their names published (and WHY NOT?) and that they THOUGHT (they would KNOW!) that these customers were from Sweden.
After this they have taken this statement back but assure that the computers EXISTS because they have seen ONE LAPTOP in their meeting with Valdi.
Everyone knows that Valdi is draging around a Clevo laptop with scratched off serial numbers (that has a pricetag around 600 USD) and rumours says this LapTop has not even been payed for to the retaler in eastern europe.
Is it THIS LapTop that makes 2CO believe there actually is a 150USD laptop in some factory somewhere? There are plenty of Clevo LapTop’s around the world, and nomatter how many of these Valdi show to 2CO it wouldn’t make their price come below 500USD would it?
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Whocares
”You must admit however that they have been very consistent regarding this matter. They have all the time done their best to ignore questions and once they reply they don’t answer the questions but instead issue statements.”
Yea it is so obvious. they keep doing it to. check the other threads on the subject. Im not sure what is more frustrating. When 2co was ignoring the questions and pretending that these threads dont exist for a week or when they reply with complete BS that dosent address the questions that have been asked at all. 2co either dosent read what is in there own forums or they just dont care about there customers concerns. Or they are in on some kind of scam here and trying to beat around it as long as they can.
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The http://www.medisoncelebrity.com and http://www.medison.se sites seem to be gone, or at least down. Has the company folded?
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Why do bother asking a general question here lol
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The Site is closed down for some reason by the hosting provider, there is a default page stating that this domain is hosted by SurfTown.
It’s about time 2CO stopped messing around its customers.
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So it seems that the shipping notices are Fake then?? I dont cant understand why 2co would not address the issue of fake shipping notices publicly.
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Waiting on answer to valid questions. Lets get it togeather 2co.
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This is in response to Cliff in another thread.
Cliff
”Questions and claims made in these public threads may not receive a direct response from 2CO, especially if a response was previously given or would violate our terms of service.”
So does that mean that when Geno says
Geno
”I apologize for being away from the forums for so long regarding this matter. I can tell you that Medison has been given a deadline. If that deadline is not met, all standing orders will be canceled and you will be notified when you can place your order again. This is not a reflection on Valdi, Medison or the product, but on system management and back end fulfillment issues. I thank you all for taking part on the forums and look forward to future discussions.”
Customers may not receive a direct response from 2CO because in your eyes a response was previously given. Even tho that response did not address a single question in this thread?
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Today in a Swedish article published by Swedens biggest news agency TT, Valdi claims that no computers has been shipped and that his ”best guess” is that the first computers will be shipped in ”a couple of weeks”. Is this something that 2co just will accept, that they mark orders as shipped without shipping anything? Isn’t this in total cotrast with your Operating Regulations:
”PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES:
In addition to prohibitions which may be found elsewhere in the Agreement, including without limitation, these Operating Regulations, Supplier shall not allow or conduct any of the following listed activities. If 2CO ascertains that Supplier is allowing or conducting any of the following listed activities, the Account will be immediately suspended and funds for completed sales of products or services to 2CO will be withheld from Supplier pursuant to Section 13:
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Prematurely Marking Products as Shipped to Customer:
Notifying 2CO that a Product has been shipped to a Customer prior to shipment having occurred.”
Does this mean that Valdis account now will be suspended?
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Oh, and I forgot links as usual.
The article: http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_17052349.asp
Translation: http://medison.pbwiki.com/SvD:+Company+accused+of+fraud+make+excuses
My blog entry regarding this: http://www.medisonscam.info/2007/09/new-article-with-valdi-interview.html
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”Today in a Swedish article published by Swedens biggest news agency TT, Valdi claims that no computers has been shipped”
So it is posible to get answers in this forum, they just dont ever seem to come from 2Co.
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Would be good with an answer to my last question, will Valdis accound be suspended just as stated in your ToS?
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Thenisse, it seems that 2CO just don’t want to admit what Valdi has disclosed in the Press i.e. Marking orders as shipped but not actually shipping any.
If 2CO admit that they know this, as in 2CO’s own terms and conditions they would be obliged to suspend the account without notice. Which for some reason they don’t want to do.
Seems like 2CO have one rule fof all other clients and another rule for Valdi and Medison. I really wonder what’s going on between Medison and 2CO.
I for one would not now ever purchase any product or service that uses 2CO as a reseller.
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2co will not answer your questions.
2co will not drop Valdi.
2co is under Valdi’s powerful mind control since the confidential one on one meeting.
Only look at Valdi with a mirror or other reflective device.