Can someone from 2co management possibly help us?
Our ticket is here: https://support.2co.com/deskpro/view.php?ticketref=7467-FHLX-9902
We have been given the runaround by 2co chargeback staff for months and even directly – and quite obviously – lied to.
2co didn’t pursue a chargeback as we had asked them to, then requested proof that we had actually responded asking them to do so. We have sent in the requested email proof numerous times by email, and also linked to it in zip form in our help ticket.
Problem solved, right?
Instead, for several months now, 2co staff have repeatedly tried to close our ticket and blow us off, or simply ignored it.
We have had to open several other tickets simply to ask for help with our first ticket!
At one point we were even lied to and bizarrely told the emails we supplied were for another order when very clearly they weren’t at all.
And still we are being lied to and told we haven’t supplied an email dated before Mar. 24th even though our 1st email is dated 21 days earlier, Mar. 3rd, only 4 days after the chargeback notice!
In an email from “L.F.” of 2co she wrote:
>>>we told you if you could show us that you contacted us with in 10 days of the notification, we would give you back the funds for this order. So far you have not sent us that proof. Everything you have sent us shows the email we sent you on February 27, 2009 and then you responding to us on March 24th, 2009
>>>The only thing we are asking is for you to show us that you sent an email to either —-@2co.com [i.e., "L.F."], —–@2co.com or chargebacks@2co.com (ticket system) about this order before March 24, 2009. Without that, we will not be reversing the funds for this order and this issue is closed.
Amazingly, “L.F.” and other staff continue to ignore the very proof asked for, which we have referred them to perhaps 10-20 times now.
After ignoring this proof via email then lying about the zip download of all our emails together, we even emailed and posted in the help ticket an unignorable direct download link for the first email response only (again, dated dated Mar. 3rd, 4 days after the chargeback notice).
We have referred them to it in several emails and linked to it in our last 3 help ticket responses.
And yet still the proof they are asking for is being ignored and we are told instead that we haven’t supplied it and they try to close our ticket again!
Infuriating! The direct link to it is in the help ticket 3 times!!! All they need to do is look at it!
We have done exactly as requested from the beginning, including sending in the proof asked for, and are completely flummoxed by the bizarre and unethical treatment we are receiving from 2co chargeback staff on what is such a simple matter.
We have always received otherwise good service from 2co and we know 2co management policy is not to lie to good customers and mess with them like this for months.
We are currently unable to get honest help on this from 2co. Another 30 help ticket posts and emails with the same people will not help. Therefore, can you please help 2co keep their word and honor and refer this ticket to a senior manager so as to resolve this simple matter easily?
Thank you.
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Hi Ziggy,
First, let me apologize for the inconvenience this has caused you. It is 2Checkout’s goal to give excellent service 100% of the time. Just as you suggested, 2Checkout strives and normally delivers exceptional service. As a long standing and trusted supplier of 2Checkout, we have decided to reverse the chargeback by giving you an adjustment of the sale to your account.
Timely communication and proper documentation are the two key elements in working and challenging chargebacks. Unfortunately, it sounds like both of these things were missing in this instance. Because of that, we wanted to first, give you this one time reversal on our behalf as a courtesy. As well, as explain the intricacies around challenging chargebacks.
Using the order that was charged back on your account as an example, we did not receive the accurate supporting documentation necessary to challenge the chargeback. Each chargeback has a reason for the order charged back, and it is the responsibility of the merchant, in this case 2Checkout, to provide supporting documents to challenge the reason for the chargeback. For example, if a chargeback reason is Not As Described, sending tracking information confirming the product was shipped is not the correct supporting documentation. The customer isn’t challenging the fact that they received the product, they are stating said product was not as described.
It is important to understand the different reason codes for chargebacks, and to provide documentation that coincides with the reason. Hence, the importance of communication from all involved parties.
Thank you for bringing this issue to our attention. We have made a lot of changes and are evolving our disputes department so to remedy the difficulties surrounding Card Not Present payments, and chargebacks. With feedback from our suppliers, we will continue to improve our service levels.
Kindly,
Sebbe
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Thanks. Shame it took several months of reiterating the same proof.
>>Timely communication and proper documentation are the two key elements…. Unfortunately, it sounds like both of these things were missing in this instance.
Please don’t tell me that. We replied within 4 days. The proof is in the help ticket referring to the 1st email with all the necessary info to challenge the chargeback (not just delivery info).
We also sent follow-ups asking about it. And resent the info numerous times. We had to post on help tickets and email perhaps 50 times total. We provided copies, download zips, etc.
We also detailed a problem with your mail filter system (evidenced on the help ticket where 2co is still blocking emails we had just sent and checked on if received).
I strongly suggest you have an upload area for chargeback docs, not rely on your email system which IS blocking and filtering emails based on IP/whatever. (Ask your tech people and they will confirm what I’ve said.) Or whitelist every vendor email.
I also strongly suggest you review why help tickets are so often abandoned mid-way through resolving them. Has happened several times on various tickets.
Thanks for resolving this.
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By the way, here’s more proof for you of your serious mail problem at 2co.
Just found this from emails sent the other week. You are blocking an ENTIRE ISP, the largest in one country, NOT even our mail server but an ISP we use just for getting on the internet! That’s crazy.
———————
This is the Postfix program at host xxxxxxxxxxx.
I’m sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
…
The Postfix program
: host mail.2co.com[64.128.185.221] said: 554 Service
unavailable; Client host [xxxxxxx] blocked using Barracuda
Reputation;
http://www.barracudanetworks.com/reputation/?r=1&ip=xxxxxxxxxx (in
reply to end of DATA command)
: host mail.2co.com[64.128.185.221] said: 554 Service
unavailable; Client host [xxxxxxx] blocked using Barracuda
Reputation;
http://www.barracudanetworks.com/reputation/?r=1&ip=xxxxxxxxx (in
reply to end of DATA command)
Etc., all the same.
Serious overkill when you block your customers from contacting you.
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Comment system blocked part of that because of angle brackets. Should be like:
(chargeback@2co.com): host mail.2co.com[64.128.185.221] said: 554 Service
etc…